PBS NewsHour; Monday, November 28, 2022, 3:00pm-4:00pm PST (2024)

♪ ♪ JUDY: GOOD EVENI. ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, TAKING TO THE STREETS. THOUSANDS OF CHINESE CITIZENS PROTEST THE COMMUNIST PARTY'S ONGOING ZERO COVID POLICY IN THE LARGEST DEMONSTRATIONS IN DECADES. AND EXTREMISM AND POLITICS. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DINNER WITH A WHITE SUPREMACIST AT MAR-A-LAGO RENEWING QUESTIONS FOR REPUBLICANS ABOUT THE PARTY LEADERSHIP AND VALUES. AND VACCINE SKEPTICISM. MISINFORMATION ABOUT COVID-1 SETS BACK EFFORTS TO IMMUNIZE PEOPLE IN THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO AGAINST A HOST OF OTHER DISEASES. >> THIS THREATENS INCREASED OUTBREAKS, DEATHS AND FOR SOME THAT SURVIVE ILLNESSES THEY OTHERWISE WOULD NOT OF GOTTEN,

LIFELONG CONSEQUENCES. JUDY: ALL OF THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S PBS "NEWSHOUR." ♪ ♪ ANNOUNCER: MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR BEEN PROVIDED BY -- ♪ ♪ AND WITH THE ONGOING SUPPORT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND INSTITUTIONS AND FRIENDS OF THE NEWSHOUR INCLUDING LEONARD AND NORMA AND PATRICIA. THE WILLIAM AND FLORA HEWLETT FOUNDATION. FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS ADVANCING IDEAS AND SUPPORTING INSTITUTIONS TO PROMOTE A BETTER WORLD AT HEWLETT.ORG. ♪ ♪ ♪ ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE CORPORATION FOR

PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS STATION BY VIEWERS LIKE YOU. THANK YOU. JUDY: THE LARGEST PROTEST SINCE TIANANMEN SQUARE IN 1989 ARE ROCKING CHINA AS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DEMONSTRATORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FILL THE STREET THIS WEEKEND TO ANNOUNCE BEIJING'S STRICT QUARANTINE AND TESTING POLICIES KNOWN AS ZERO COVID BUT SOME OF THE DEMONSTRATIONS QUICKLY EVOLVED INTO DEMANDS FOR POLITICAL CHANGE INCLUDING THE REMOVAL OF THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF. NICK SCHIFRIN BEGINS OUR COVERAGE. REPORTER: IN A SOUTHWESTERN CITY, PROTESTERS DEMAND FREEDOM, FREEDOM OF PRESS THEY CHANT. FREEDOM OF SPEECH. AND IN WUHAN, THEY BREAK DOWN THE FENCE THAT KEPT THEM BURNED TEAMED. AND IN A WESTERN CITY, THEY FLY THE FLAG AND DEMAND THE END OF

LOCKDOWNS. NATIONWIDE PROTESTS LIT BY A LITERAL FIRE LAST WEEK. WITNESSES SAY A COVID LOCKDOWN TRAPPE RESIDENTS IN A BUILDING BUILDING -- IN A BURNING BUILDING KILLING AT LEAST 10. THIS IS A NATIONAL RELEASE OF PENT-UP ANGER. THEY ARE FURIOUS OF ZERO COVID AND IT'S BRUTAL REINFORCEMENT. IN CHINA'S LARGEST CITY THE PROTESTS GOT PERSONAL. STEP DOWN, XI, THEY CHANT, ONE OF THE FEW TIMES IN YEARS AT DEMONSTRATORS USED HIS NAME. PROTESTS SPREAD TO BEIJING INCLUDING AT A UNIVERSITY. THOSE THAT DID NOT WANT TO MAKE IT EXPLICIT DID NOT HAVE TO, A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER OR AN EQUATION REPRESENTING FREEMAN WHICH MANY PROTESTERS NO LONGER

ARE. >> IN SHANGHAI, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DETAINED. FREE THOSE PEOPLE IN SHANGHAI. REPORTER: IN WASHINGTON TODAY JOHN KIRBY ENDORSED CHINESE CITIZENS RIGHT TO PEACEFUL PROTEST. >> A LOCKDOWN IS NOT A POLICY WE SUPPORT HERE BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN CHINA THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THA AND THEY ARE PROTESTING THAT AND WE BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT PEACEFULLY. REPORTER: BEIJING MAINTAINS THE STRICTEST COVID CONTROLS. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE MUST SUBMIT TO DAILY TESTS AND QUARANTINE FOR LENGTHY PERIODS. SOME RULES WERE RELAXED AND QUARANTINES FOR CLOSE CONTACT OF PATIENTS AND FOREIGN VISITORS. ELIMINATED CONTACT TRACING AND THEY PHASED OUT ROUTINE MASS TESTING IN SEVERAL CITIES. TODAY, ANNOUNCED IT WOULD FURTHER EASE QUARANTINE ROLES AND MASS TESTING. BUT TODAY CHINESE AUTHORITIES

DEFENDED COVID ZERO AND DENIED THAT NATIONAL UNREST THREATENED THE POLICY. >> CHINA HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THE DYNAMIC COVID ZERO POLICY AND HAS BEEN MAKING ADJUSTMENTS. WE BELIEVE WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY AND COOPERATION WITH THE PEOPLE, OUR FIGHT AGAINST COVID-19 WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. REPORTER: FOR MORE ON THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THESE PROTESTS WE TURN TO A LONG TIME CHINESE WATCHER. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING -- THANK YOU. HOW SIGNIFICANT ARE THESE PROTESTS? >> THEY ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT IN THREE RESPECTS. FIRST, FOR THE FIRST TIME WE ARE SEEING SIMULTANEOUS PROTESTS IN MAJOR CHINESE CITIES. THE OTHER THING ABOUT THIS ROUND OF PROTESTS IS PARTICIPANTS SEEM TO COME FROM A WIDE RANGE OF SOCIAL LEVELS AND THAT'S NOT BEEN SEEN IN 30 YEARS.

AND THIRD AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SOME OF THE DEMANDS ARE SPECIFICALLY POLITICAL. WE HAVE NOT HEARD PEOPLE CHANTING -- WE HAVE NOW HEARD PEOPLE CHANTING, XI AND THE COMMUNIST PARTY SHOULD STEP DOWN. REPORTER: IT IS NOT THAT PROTEST IS UNPRECEDENTED IN CHINA IT IS JUST THAT MOST WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST 30 YEARS HAVE BEEN LOCALIZED AND LOCAL GROUPS OBJECTING TO LOCAL POLICIES. >> ABSOLUTELY. OTHER PROTESTS HAVE HAD LOCAL SOCIOECONOMIC ISSUES. THEY NEVER SPILLED BEYOND THE BOUNDARIES OF COUNTY OR SMALL-TOWN BUT THIS TIME IT IS VERY DIFFERENT. REPORTER: WE HAVE SEEN BEIJING IN RECENT DAYS TAKE BABY STEPS TO EASE SOME OF ITS ZERO COVET -- ZERO COVID POLICY BUT THE MESSAGE FROM XI HIMSELF -- COULD HIS MESSAGE BE CHANGED OR ADJUSTED AT ALL BECAUSE OF THESE

PROTESTS? >> I THINK THESE PROTESTS WILL FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO ADJUST THE POLICY BECAUSE THE MESSAGE FROM THE PROTESTS IS ALSO QUITE CLEAR. THE CURRENT SITUATION IS NOT TOLERABLE. AND THEY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE ITS COURSE. REPORTER: A CHINESE OFFICIAL TOLD ME THAT HE FEARED IF CHINA OPENED UP, MORE THAN A MILLION PEOPLE WOULD DIE. ISN'T THAT FEAR LEGITIMATE SINCE CHINESE VACCINES HAVE PROVEN TO BE LESS EFFECTIVE THAN WESTERN MRNA VACCINES? >> HONESTLY, NO ONE KNOWS. IF THEY OPEN UP, THERE WILL BE A SURGE IN CASE INFECTIONS AND ALSO THERE WILL LIKELY BE HOSPITALIZATIONS AND AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF DEATHS. NOW, YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THAT AGAINST WHAT APPEARS TO BE A NATIONWIDE CALL ON THE GOVERNMENTO CHANGE ITS COURSE.

BUT IF I HAVE TO GUESS, I AM LEANING TOWARDS A GRADUAL RELAXATION RATHER THAN DOUBLING DOWN ON A POLICY THAT SEEMS TO BE DELIVERING NOTHING BUT MISERY. REPORTER: IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE THAT ANYONE AROUND XI WHO HAVE POWER AND INFLUENCE OVER HIM OBJECT TO THIS POLICY THAT HAS BEEN SO CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH HIM PERSONALLY? >> NO, NOT AT THAT LEVEL. AT THE TOP, THE PRESIDENT HAS A GROUP OF COLLEAGUES THAT HE PERSONALLY TRUSTS AND THEY WILL BACK HIS POLICY NO MATTER WHAT. I THINK WHAT THE CHINESE LEADERSHIP WORRIES MORE ABOUT IS LOCAL OFFICIALS. LOCAL OFFICIALS ARE THE FRONT LINE OF ENFORCING ZERO COVID. AND THESE PEOPLE ARE ALSO HUMAN BEINGS SO THEY ARE FRUSTRATED AND TIRED. REPORTER: ZERO COVID HAS NOT ONLY CAUSED SOCIAL PROTEST BUT IT HAS DEPRESSED GROWTH. CHINA IS GROWING AT THE SECOND

SLOWEST GROWTH RATE IN 40 PLUS YEARS. WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT XI? >> I THINK AT SOME POINT HE HAS TO BALANCE ZERO COVID WITH ECONOMIC LOSSES. IF YOU DO THE CALCULATION, CHINA HAS LOST ABOUT 2% OF GDP IN TERMS OF GROWTH AND THAT COMES DOWN TO ABOUT AT LEAST $350 BILLION. THAT IS A VERY BIG NUMBER D IT AFFECTS EMPLOYMENT AND GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURES. REPORTER: BUT HE HAS MADE THE DECISION TOWARDS LOYALTY AND CONTROL OVER GROWTH IN THE PAST. >> YES, BUT WHEN HE MADE THOSE DECISIONS, THE ECONOMIC COSTS WERE NOT THAT EVIDENT. TODAY, THEY ARE UNDENIABLE AND THEY ARE MOUNTING. NOW HE WILL NOT -- HE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

MAKING A COURSE SHIFT MIGHT BE THE SMARTEST THING TO DO RATHER THAN STICKING WITH A COSTLY POLICY. REPORTER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU ARE WELCOME. ♪ ♪ JUDY: IN THE DAYS OTHER NEWS, THE UNREST IN CHINA SENT A SHUDDER DOWN WALL STREET. AGERS STOCK INDEXES DROPPED 1.5 PERCENT OVER FEARS OF ANY GLOBAL ECONOMIC FALLOUT. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE LOST. THE AS AN P5 HUNDRED SLID 62. A WHITE TEENAGER PLEADED GUILTY TODAY DIFFIE LEE SHOOTING 10 BLACK SHOPPERS AND WORKERS AT A SUPERMARKET IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK. PAYTON, WHO IS 19, POSTED RACIST RANTS BEFORE THE ATTACK LAST MAY. AFTER TODAY'S HEARING, A SON OF

ONE VICTIM SAID THE REAL PROBLEM IS WHITE SUPREMACY. >> THIS WAS ALL PLANNED. IT WAS INTENTIONAL. I HEARD A LOT ABOUT JUSTICE TODAY. THERE IS NO JUSTICE IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH THAT. THERE IS NO JUSTICE IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH WHAT FACILITATED THESE MURDERS. JUDY: THE PLEA ON STATE CHARGES MEANS MANDATORY LIFE PRISON WITHOUT PAROLE. HE COULD STILL FACE THE DEATH PENALTY. IN UKRAINE OFFICIALS ARE WARNING OF ANOTHER HARD WEEK WITH MORE RUSSIAN MISSILE STRIKES AGAINST POWER AND WATER SYSTEMS. KYIV'S MAYOR SAYS SOME OF THE CITY'S 3 MILLION PEOPLE MAY NEED TO BE EVACUATED. BALTIC AND NORDIC NATIONS ARE PLEDGING WARM CLOTHING, GENERATORS AND FOOD TO HELP UKRAINIAN SCOPE. IRAN REJECTED A U.N. INVESTIGATION OF ITS CRACKDOWN ON PROTESTS WHICH CAME AS ACTIVISTS REPORTED 450 PROTESTERS HAVE DIED WITH MORE THAN 18,000 ARRESTED.

THEY INCLUDE THE KNEES OF AYATOLLAH HOME IN, IRAN'S SUPREME LEADER. IN A VIDEO FOR HER ARREST SHE URGED THE WORLD TO CUT TIES WITH TEHRAN. >> SWEET PEOPLE, BE WITH US AND TELL YOUR GOVERNMENTS TO STOP SUPPORTING THIS MURDEROUS REGIME. THIS REGIME IS NOT LOYAL TO ANY OF THE RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. JUDY: THE PROTEST BEGAN AFTER A YOUNG KURDISH WOMAN DIED IN POLICE CUSTODY IN SEPTEMBER. SIX EUROPEAN COUNTRIES HAVE TAKEN DOWN A SO-CALLED SUPER CARTEL THAT CONTROLLED ONE THIRD OF THE CONTINENTS COCAINE TRADE. THE OPERATION RESULTED IN DOZENS OF ARRESTS OVER TWO YEARS. SPANIS AUTHORITIES RELEASED VIDEO OF THE RAIDS INCLUDING SEIZING MORE THAN 30 TONS OF DRUGS AND HUGE COLLECTIONS OF LUXURY GOODS. PACK IN THIS COUNTRY, MORE THAN 2 MILLION PEOPLE IN HOUSTON SPENT THE DAY UNDER OIL WATER

NOTICE AFTER A POWER OUTAGE AT A WATER PURIFICATION PLANT. THE MAYOR SAID TESTING WILL DETERMINE WHEN THE WATER IS SAFE AGAIN. >> I WILL SAY THAT STUFF DOES HAEN AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE IMPACTED AND ARE IMPACTED. WE CERTAINLY APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT WE WILL DO A DIAGNOSTIC REVIEW AND WORK WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS TO ASSESS THE SITUATION AND MITIGATE A FUTURE OCCURRENCE OF THIS KIND. JUDY: FOR NOW HOUSTON RESIDENTS MUST BOIL WATER FOR COOKING, DRINKING AND BATHING AND SCHOOLS ARE ALSO CLOSED. THIS WAS A DEADLINE DAY IN ARIZONA FOR CERTIFYING THE MIDTERM ELECTION RESULTS AND AT LEAST ONE REPUBLICAN-CONTROLL COUNTY R CEFOUUSNTSO HAVE SHOWNS ARE WINNING THE STATES MAJOR RACES. THE GOP CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR AND SECRETARY OF STATE HAVE REFUSED TO CONCEDE. AND THE WORLD'S LARGEST VOLCANO IN HAWAII IS ERUPTING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 40 YEARS. IT STARTED LATE SUNDAY.

THE NIGHT SKY AROUND THE SUMMIT GLOWED AS LAVA AND VOLCANIC ASH SPEWED OUT POSING A RISK TO SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS. STILL TO THE NEWSHOUR, WE LOOK AHEAD TO THE LAME-DUCK SESSION IN CONGRESS. MISINFORMATION ABOUT COVID-19 SETS BACK EFFORTS TO IMMUNIZE CHILDREN IN THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO PLUS, MUCH MORE. ♪ ANNOUNCER: THIS IS THE PBS NEWSHOUR FROM W ETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON AND IN THE WEST FROM THE WALTER CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY JUDY: ONE WEEK AFTER FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP ANNOUNCED HE WOULD SEEK REELECTION TO THE NATION'S TOP OFFICE, HE DINED AT HIS MAR-A-LAGO HOME WITH TWO MEN KNOWN FOR THEIR RACIST AND ANTI-SEMITIC BELIEFS. A 24-YEAR-OLD POLITICAL COMMENTATOR AND YE, LAURA HAS MORE.

REPORTER: THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IDENTIFIED FUENTES WHO HAS SPREAD HATE AMONG BLACK AMERICANS AND OTHER GROUPS. YE HAS ALSO BEEN CONDEMNED FOR ANTI-SEMITIC AND ANTI-BLACK COMMENTS. IN STATEMENTS DONALD TRUMP CLAIMED THAT FUENTES WAS INVITED BY YE. THIS IS THE LATEST EXAMPLE OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT ASSOCIATING WITH BIGOTED INDIVIDUALS AND ELEVATING THEIR IDEAS. CHUCK SCHUMER RESPONDED. >> FOR A FORMER PRESIDENT TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE DINNER WITH A HIGH PROFILE ANTI-SEMI IS DISGUSTING -- ANTI-SEMITE IS DISGUSTING AND DANGEROUS. TO GIVE AN ANTI-SEMITE AN AUDIENCE IS PURELY EVIL. EVEN ASSUMING THE FORMER

PRESIDENT DID NOT REALIZE THAT HE WAS COMING TO MAR-A-LAGO, FOR HIM TO REFUSED TO CONDEMN HIM AND HIS WORDS AFTER THE DINNER IS APPALLING AND DANGEROUS. REPORTER: WE ASKED EVERY REPUBLICAN SENATOR AND EVERY MEMBER OF REPUBLICAN HOUSE LEADERSHIP TODAY WHETHER THEY THOUGHT THE MEETING WAS APPROPRIATE AND IF THEY CONDEMNED IT. LOUISIANA SENATOR BILL CASSIDY SAID TRUMP HOSTING RACT ANTI-SEMITES FOR DINNER ENCOURAGES OTHERS AND SUSAN COLLINS TOLD NEWSHOUR THAT THE PRESIDENT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAD A MEAL OR A MEETING WITH NICK FUENTES. THE VAST MAJORITY DID NOT RESPOND. FOR MORE ON WHAT THIS MEANS TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY I'M JOINED BY THE DIRECTOR OF THE INSTITUTE FOR CONSTITUTIONAL ADVOCACY AND PROTECTION AND A FORMER JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL AND STUART STEVENS, A FORMER REPUBLICAN CONSULTANT NOW AT THE LINCOLN PROJT AND A NEW PRO-DEMOCRACY MEDIA PLATFORM. THANK YOU FOR JOINING NEWSHOUR TODAY.

AS REPUBLICAN SENATORS WERE RETURNING TO WASHINGTON THIS EVENING, THEY WERE ASKED BY REPORTERS ABOUT THE DINNER AND A NUMBER OF THEM SAID IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE AND WRONG AND THERE IS NO PLACE FOR WHITE SUPREMACY IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. SEPARATELY, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE SAID DONALD TRUMP SHOULD APOLOGIZE FOR THE MEETING. WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE REPUBLICAN RESPONSE SO FAR? >> I THINK THIS HAS TO BE TAKEN IN CONTEXT OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHICH IN MY VIEW IS A MORAL COLLAPSE. UNLIKE ANY WE HAVE SEEN IN AMERICA WITH A MAJOR POLITICAL PARTY. THIS HAPPENED IN FLORIDA. THE GOVERNOR O FLORIDA RON DESANTIS AS FAR AS I KNOW HAS YET TO ASSERT THAT JOE BIDEN WON A LEGAL AND FAIR ELECTION. WE TALK ABOUT ELECTION DENIERS BUT WE FOCUS ON THOSE THAT ARE OUT THERE CAMPAIGNING ON IT BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF ELECTED REPUBLICAN OFFICIALS ARE YET TO SAY THAT DONALD TRUMP LOST A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION. THAT IS -- HOW EXTREME CAN THAT

BE? IT MEANS WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY. IT MEANS THEY ARE PARTICIPATING AS ELECTED OFFICIALS IN WHAT IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. THIS EXTREMIST CONSPIRACY THEORY -- THESE EXTREMIST CONSPIRACY THEORIES HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO GROW IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IT HAS LOST CONTACT WITH ANY GOVERNING PHILOSOPHY. REPORTER: MARY, ON NICK FUENTES SPECIFICALLY, WHAT SHOULD OUR VIEWERS UNDERSTAND ABOUT HIM? >> HE IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST WHO ROSE TO SOME PROMINENCE AFTER THE YOU THE RALLY -- UNITE THE NIGHT RALLY. HE HAS BEEN MOST RECENTLY VERY ACTIVE IN ORGANIZING STOP THE STEEL DEMONSTRATIONS BACK IN 2020 AND 2021. AND HE IS SOMEONE THAT ADVOCATES GREAT REPLACEMENT THEORY. I THINK HE TRIES TO HAVE A

POLITICAL INFLUENCE AND INFLUENCE ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND HE HAS DONE THIS BY CREATING HIS OWN ORGANIZATION, HIS OWN PAC, POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE WHICH COMPETES WITH CPAC TO PULL CANDIDATES AND POLITICIANS FURTHER TO THE FRINGE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY DANGEROUS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT GENERATES MORE PUICITY FOR HIMSELF AND MORE PROFIT FOR HIMSELF BUT IT MAKES TOO MANY OF OUR POLITICIANS FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO PANDER TO HIM AND THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO LOSE IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO PANDER TO HIM AND HIS BASE. THAT IS WHAT WE SAW WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAVING DINNER WITH NICK FUENTES. I DON'T PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT HE DID NOT KNOW WHO HE WAS. HE HAS HIS OWN PAC THAT SUPPORTED PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE WAS A MAJOR PROPONENT OF THE

STOP THE STEAL RALLIES. REPORTER: NICK FUENTES AS YOU NOTED IS NOT NEW ON THE SCENE. REPRESENTATIVES MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE AND PAUL FROM ARIZONA SPOKE AT NICK FUENTES' CONFERENCE THIS YEAR BUT THERE WAS NO VAST REPUBLICAN CONDEMNATION OF IT ACROSS THE PARTY. WHAT ROOTS DO YOU SEE? WHY ARE THESE FIGURES ACCEPTED WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY? >> I THINK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS SADLY ACCEPTED ITS ROLE AS A WHITE GRIEVANCE PAY. THIS GOES BACK TO THE HISTORY OF THE POST-WORLD WAR II REPUBLICAN PARTY THERE WERE TWO STRANDS, AND EISENHOWER STRAND WHICH WAS BORING AND GOVERNING AND THEN A JOE MCCARTHY STRAND WHICH WAS XENOPHOBIC, CONSPIRATORIAL AND OFTEN RACIST. THESE HAVE BATTLED EACH OTHER AND A LOT OF US WHO WERE PARTICULARLYNVOLVED IN GEORGE BUSH'S CAMPAIGN AS A

COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE, WE ASSUMED WE WERE THE DOMINANT GENE IN THE PARTY AND WE KNEW THE DARK SIDE AND THOUGHT IT WOULD GO AWAY IF NOT FOR THE NECESSITY OF ADAPTING TO CHANGE AMERICA. I DON'T KNOW ANY CONCLUSION TO COME TO OTHER THAN WE WERE WRONG AND THE OTHER IS THE DOMINANT GENE. RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A GREAT NOSTALGIA FOR WILLIAM BUCKLEY AS AN INTELLECTUAL VOICE OF THE PARTY AND WE FORGET THAT HE STARTED OUT AS A COLD STONE SEGREGATIONIST. HE LATER RECANTED AND I THINK GENUINELY SO THESE ARE THE ROOTS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. 85% OF DONALD TRUMP'S VOTE WAS WHITE IN A COUNTRY THAT IS AROUND 57% WHITE AND THAT SAYS IT ALL. REPORTER: WHEN VOICES LIKE NICK FUENTES AND YE WHO HAVE SAID THAT SLAVERY WAS A CHOICE GETTING MEETING WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND THEY ARE ASSOCIATED WITH OER GOP

FIGURES, WHAT SIGNAL DOES THAT SEND TO NICK FUENTES' FOLLOWERS BUT ALSO REPUBLICAN VOTERS? >> WHAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND OTHER POLITICIANS THAT WOULD ASSOCIATE OPENLY WITH WHITE SUPREMACISTS IS THEY ARE TRYING TO WALK A FINE LINE. THEY ARE TRYING TO APPEAL TO THE BASE WHO IS REALLY MOTIVATED AND TURNED ON BY THIS TYPE OF RACIST CONTENT AND EMBRACING GREAT REPLACEMENT THEORY AND PUTTING ASIDE AND UNDERMINING ALL SEMBLANCE OF DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES AND AMERICA. THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO APPEAL TO THAT BASE BUT THEN THEY WANT PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY OF -- I DID NOT KNOW WHO HE WAS, I DID NOT KNOW WHAT HIS PHILOSOPHY WAS, HE CAME AS A GUEST OF KANYE WEST. THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO ABANDON THOSE THAT ARE LESS ON THE FRINGE OF THEIR PARTY. THEY CANNOT HAVE THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT ALSO APPEARED THESE THINGS ARE NOT DEBATABLE AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE DEBATABLE IN

POLITICS. THERE WAS A TIME NOT THAT LONG AGO WHERE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN CONDEMNED IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE TERMS ACROSS THE PARTY AND WE ARE NOT SEEING THAT RIG NOW. THE MESSAGE IT SENDS IS IT IS DANGEROUS, IT IS MAKING IT ACCEPTABLE TO NOT ONLY HOLD THESE VIEWS BUT TO A SPOUSE THOSE AND TRY TO INFLUENCE POLICY WITH TYPESF AND IDEOLOGIES THAT ARE EXTREMIST, POLARIZING AND VIOLENT. REPORTER: MARY MCCORD AND STUART STEVENS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ♪ JUDY: LAWMAKERS ARE BACK IN THE NATION'S CAPITAL AFTER THE LIDAY WEEKEND AND HAVE A LONG LIST OF ISSUES THEY NEED TO TACKLE BEFORE THE END OF THE

YEAR WHICH INCLUDES KEY VOTES ON NEW PARTY LEADERSHIP AND AS WELL AS TOP PRIORITY SUCH AS FUNDING THE GOVERNMENT. WE DIVE INTO THE POLITICS OF ALL OF THIS AND AM JOINED BY AMY WALTER OF THE COOK POLITICAL REPORT WITH AMY WALTER AND TAMERAEITH OF NPR. AND IT IS SO GOOD TO SEE BOTH OF YOU ON THIS MONDAY. WELCOME. BUT I DO WANT TO START FRANKLY WITH THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HEARD BETWEEN LARA AND OUR GUESTS. YOU HEARD WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, THAT REPUBLICANS NOT DENOUNCING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ARE TRYING TO APPEAL TO THE BASE. WHAT DOES THIS GET THEM? >> AND I WILL SAY THAT AS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVE RETURNED TO CAPITOL HILL AND PARTICULAR SENATORS, THEY ARE BEING ASKED ABOUT IT AND MANY OF THEM SAID, I WOULD NOT HAVE HAD DINNER WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND DONALD TRUMP SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD DINNER WITH THOSE PEOPLE BUT DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF HAS NOT DISAVOWED THE DINNER OR HIS GUESTS SAYING HE DID NOT KNOW SOMEBODY WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM

SAYING, I CANNOT BELIEVE I HAD DINNER WITH AN ANTI-SEMITE, AM SO SORRY AND THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. HE HAS NOT DISAVOWED THE IDEOLOGY OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO DINNER AT HIS RORT AND HAD A PRIVATE DINNER WITH HIM. AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS THEY SUPPORT HIM AND THEY SUPPORT SOME OF THESE CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT HE HAS BEEN PROMOTING. INCREASINGLY, HE HAS BEEN FORWARDING ON MEMES THAT APPEAL TO THE QANON CONSPIRACY THEORY AND AT ITS ROOT IS A LOT OF ANTI-SEMITISM. JUDY: WHAT DOES THIS GET THE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE NOT DENOUNCING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP? AMY: THE BIG QUESTION IS NOT SO MUCH WHEN WILL REPUBLICAN LEADERS COME OUT AND SAY NO MORE, WE WILL HAVE NO MORE OF THIS WITH DONALD TRUMP, IT IS WHEN WILL REPUBLICAN PARTY

VOTERS SAY THAT? AND RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLING AND THE DATA, YOU STILL HAVE A MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS OUT THERE SAYING THEY WOULD SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP FOR A 2024 BID. THERE IS A GROWING GROUP OF VOTERS SAYING THEY ARE ELSE BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS GOES -- THAT THE MESSAGE GETS TO REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS AND REPUBLICAN LEADERS IS IF THERE VOTERS ARE SAYING, I DO NOT WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PERSON ANYMORE. JUDY: IS THERE ANY EVEN -- IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE THIS MIGHT HAPPEN BASED ON PAST HISTORY? >> YOU WOULD THINK GIVEN ALL OF THE HANDWRINGING AFTER THE PAST ELECTION THERE WOULD BE MORE FRUSTRATION BUBBLING UP AMONG THE RANK AND FILE. WE ARE SEEING REPORTS AND STORIES FROM STATE PARTIES WHERE INTERNALLY THE STATE PARTY CHAIR AND OTHERS WHO WERE BIG DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE GETTING

SERIOUS CHALLENGES BUT IT IS LESS ABOUT THE BELIEF SYSTEM AND THE IDEOLOGY OF DONALD TRUMP OR WHO HE IS HAVING DINNER WITH AND CONSORTING WITH AND THE FACT THAT DONALD TRUMP IS NO LONGER THE WINNER BUT HE WAS IN 2016. >> AND UP -- AND AS I WAS TALKING TO VOTERS BEFORE THE MIDTERMS, MANY EXPRESS RESERVATIONS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S BAGGAGE AND HIS LOSING AND HE HAD NOT EVEN LOST THE MIDTERMS YET WITH HIS CANDIDATES LOSING. THERE IS AN UNEASE BUT IN 2015I TALKED TO A LOT OF VOTERS WHO SAID, I WISH HE WOULD NOT TWEET SO MUCH. AND NOW IT IS, I WISH HE WOULD NOT HANG OUT WITH CONSPIRACY THEORISTS. IT IS NOT CLEAR YET AND WE WON'T KNOW IT UNTIL WE SEE IT WHETHER THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH BAGGAGE. JUDY: IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT IT OUT AND TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN PEOPLE CAN DECIDE. AMY, CONGRESS IS BACK OR SOME OF

IT IS BACK. THEY HAVE ONLY A FEW WEEKS OR LESS TO GET A LOT OF WORK DONE INCLUDING KEEPING THE GOVERNMENT FUNDED. HOW MUCH OF THIS ARE THEY LIKELY TO GET DONE? >> THERE IS A THEORY IN DOUBT LEGISLATING -- THERE IS A THEORY IN LAME-DUCK. PERIODS. NOT ONLY IS THERE A LITTLE TIME BUT THERE IS NOT THE COORDINATED SUPPORT FOR A SUM OF THE PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT SAY DEMOCRATS WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORWARD. LIKE FINALLY DEALING WITH IMMIGRATION AND DACA. THE ONE THING THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT ASIDE FROM KEEPING THE GOVERNMENT OPEN AND THE DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION LEGISLATION IS GAY MARRIAGE. BASICALLY REPEALING THE DEFENSE

OF MARRIAGE ACT AND ENSURING FEDERAL PROTECTION FOR SAME-SEX MARRIAGE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THAT IS PROBABLY, WHEN I TALKED TO FOLKS TODAY WHO WATCH THIS, THAT WAS THEIR SENSE THAT IT WAS THE ONE THING MOST LIKELY TO MAKE IT THUGH. >> IT IS ALSO POSSLE THE ELECTORAL COUNT ACT COULD MAKE IT THROUGH BECAUSE THERE IS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. THEY NEED TO RECONCILE THE MEASURES AND IF IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN IN THE LAME-DK. WHEN REPUBLICANS TAKE OVER THE HOUSE, ALL OF THESE MEASURES THAT ARE PASSING ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS WITH A FEW REPUBLICANS AND A LOT OF DEMOCRATS, DEMOCRATS CONTROL THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW. IF THEY DON'T AND REPUBLICANS DO IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT 10 REPUBLICAN SUPPORT A BILL, THEY WON'T BRING IT TO THE FLOOR. JUDY: SPEAKING OF THE NEW CONGRESS, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THE IDEAHAT EMMA KRATZ ARE

TURNING OVER TO A NEW GENERATION. >> ON WEDNESDAY DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE A NEW LEADER FOR THEIR PARTY AND IT IS MOST LIKELY TO BE HAKEEM JEFFRIES. HE WOULD BE THE FIRST BLACK ER OF ANY PARTY FOR THE HOUSE OR THE SENATE. INTERESTINGLY, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THIS TODAY BEFORE I CAME IN BECAUSE THAT IS THE DOOR KHAYYAM, WHEN NANCY PELOSI WAS ELECTED IN 2001, DEMOCRATS HAD THE SAME NUMBER OF SEATS IN CONGRESS. THE MAKEUP OF CONGRESS WAS SO DIFFERENT. THEY HAD MEMBERS FROM ARKANSAS, NORTH DAKOTA AND MISSISSIPPI. NOW, THE CAUCUS IS MORE DIVERSE. THERE ARE MORE WOMEN, MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR. BUT IDEOLOGICALLY, GEOGRAPHICALLY MUCH LESS DIVERSE THAN IT WAS WHEN NANCY PELOSI TOOK OVER. IN SOME WAYS THE JOB FOR

JEFFRIES WILL BE CHALLENGING. THEY KIND OF ALL COME FROM THE SAME PLACE WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE THAT ARE FROM NEW YORK CITY AND SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI ON THE SAME PAGE. JUDY: THE MODERATES HAVE SUNK INTO THE BACKGROUND. NEW CONGRESS. A CHANGE FOR THE DEMOCRATS AND FOR THE REPUBLICANS AS THEY HAVE A LOT OF FIGURING OUT TO DO. >> THEY HAVE CLOSE TO 20 REPUBLICANS THAT WON IN BIDEN DISTRICTS OR BLUE-PURPLE DISTRICTS. THESE ARE REPUBLICANS THAT MIGHT NOT BE SO EXCITED ABOUT PASSING A PARTISAN MESSAGING BILL OR LAUNCHING OR APPROVING A SUBPOENA FOR A WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL OR DOING SOME OF THESE MORE SHOWY THINGS THAT OTHER REPUBLICANS, MORE HARD-CORE REPUBLICANS, THAT MANY IN LEADERSHIP RAN ON. SO, IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING

BALANCE SEEING WHETHER THESE MODERATES HAVE TO GO ALONG OR WHETHER THEY END UP CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP THAT ARE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS THAN THE PROBLEMS THE LEADERSHIP IS WORRIED ABOUT NOW WHICH IS THERE MORE CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS TRYING TO EXTRACT CONCESSIONS BEFORE KEVIN MCCARTHY OR WHOEVER IT IS IS ELECTED SPEAKER. JUDY: IS ALL OF THIS A RECIPE FOR WHAT? >> WE HAVE A BIG GENERATIONAL CHANGE AND ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE AS WELL. AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP ARE MUCH YOUNGER THAN THE CURRENT MEMBERS LEADERSHIP. THE THING THAT WILL BE THE MOST INTERESTING IS A RIFT BETWEEN THEIR FREEDOM CAUCUS AND THE MORE MODERATE OR TRADITIONAL CONSERVATIVES AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE DEBT CEILING. THAT IS ONE WHERE FEW VOTES, YOU HAVE TO GET THE SENATE,

MACCONNELL HAS TO GET HIS TEAM ON BOARD, AND THERE ARE MORE TRUMP-Y SENATORS THEN THERE WERE YEARS AGO. JUDY: A LOT IS AT STAKE. TAMRA KEITH AND AMY WALTER, THANK YOU TO BOTH. ♪ ♪ JUDY: MILLIONS OF CHILDREN AROUND THE WORLD DID NOT GET ROUTINE VACCINES AS A RESULT OF DISRUPTIONS AND DISINFORMATION CAUSED EITHER COVID-19 PANDEMIC. THAT IS THE LARGEST SUSTAINED DECLINE IN CHILDHOOD IMMUNIZATIONS IN A GENERATION. IN SOME COUNTRIES AS IN THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO , THESE SETBACKS THREATEN TO UNDO YEARS OF PUBLIC HEALTH ADVANCES. SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT BENEDICT AND VIDEO JOURNALIST JUERGEN REPORT. REPORTER: IN THIS HEALTH CENTER

ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF KINSHASA, COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS ARE PREPARING TO ADMINISTER A ROUND OF ROUTINE VACCINATIONS. IN AFRICA ALONE EVERY YEAR MORE THAN 800,000 LIVES ARE SAVED BECAUSE OF ROUTINE VACCINES ACCORDING TO THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION. THOUGH A PAINFUL PART OF GROWING UP, VACCINES ARE ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC HEALTH INTERVENTIONS, THE SAFEST WAY TO PROTECT CHILDREN FROM LIFE-THREATENING DISEASES LIKE POLIO, REBELLO AND TETANUS. BUT OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS VACCINATION RATES ARE PLUMMETING AND NOT JUST HERE BUT ACROSS THE PLANET. AND DOCTORS ARE WORRIED. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A GENERATION LAST YEAR MORE THAN 25 MILLION CHILDREN MISSED OUT ON BASIC VACCINES. HEALTH WORKERS FEAR THAT WITHOUT FOCUSING GREATER EFFORTS ON INCREASING THE RATE OF CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS, MANY DISEASES THAT WERE ONCE UNDER CONTROL MAY

RETURN. IN JULY, THE UN'S WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION ALARM. >> THIS IS THE LARGEST SUSTAINED CLINE IN CHILDHOOD VACCITION IN 30 YEARS. THIS THREATENS INCREASED OUTBREAKS, DEATHAND FOR SOME THAT SURVIVED THE ILLNESSES THEY OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN, LIFELONG CONSEQUENCES. REPORTER: ONE MAJOR REASON FOR THE DECLINES, THE GLOBAL SHUTDOWNS ASSOCIATED WITH COVID-19 PUTTING A STRAIN ON PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEMS. THE SIZE OF ONE QUARTER OF THE CONTINENTAL U.S., GETTING SERVICES TO FAR-FLUNG PARTS OF THE COUNTRY IS NOT EASY. WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONGO RIVER. VILLAGES HERE ARE EXTREMELY INE AMS TO REACH.DIFFICULT PRIOR TO APRIL THIS YEAR, THE AREA HAD NO PERMANENT HEALTH CENTER. UNDEROVID LOCKDOWNS A BECAME MORE ISOLATED.

>> WE HAVE DIFFICULTY REACHING THIS AREA BECAUSE IT IS VERY FAR. THE DISTANCE IS 34 MILES AND YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE RIVER TO REACH HERE. REPORTER: THIS ISLAND IS A SMALL COMMUNITY OF FARMERS. THERE ARE NO ROADS OR ELECTRICITY. WITH HEALTH SYSTEMS NOW TRYING TO RETURN TO A POST-COVID NORMAL, IT IS A GAME OF CATCH UP WHICH MEANS WALKING FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE, CALLING LOUDLY FOR EVERYONE TO GATHER AT THIS MAKESHIFT CLINIC UNDER A CLUSTER OF BAMBOO. >> THESE VACCINES ARE FOR KIDS AT BETWEEN ZERO AND 11 MONTHS. THEY ARE TO PROTECT THEM AGAINST POLIO AND OTHER VIRUSES. REPORTER: THESE PARENTS REQUIRE NO CONVINCING. MONTH BY MONTH AND VACCINE BY VACCINE, HEALTH WORKERS HOPE TO BRING IMMUNIZATION RATES IN THESE ISOLATED AREAS BACK TO NORMAL. BUT ELSEWHERE IN THE CONGO GETTING BACK TO NORMAL REQUIRES

REBUILDING TRUST. VACCINE MISINFORMATION, ESPECIALLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS PERHAPS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL REASON WHY OVERALL VACCINATION RATES ARE GOING DOWN. LESS THAN 5% OF THE COUNTRY IS VACCINATED AGAINST COVID-19. VIDEOS LIKE THIS ONE OFTEN ORIGINATING FROM OUTSIDE AFRICA SPREAD LIES THAT COVID-19 VACCINES CAUSE INFERTILITY AND EVEN DEATH WHICH MEET -- WHICH MAKES SOME RESISTANT NOT JUST AGAINST THE COVID-19 VACCINE BUT INCREASINGLY AGAINST OTHER ROUTINE VACCINES AS WELL. >> THE PANDEMIC HAS AFFECTED OUR VACCINATION STEM AND CREATED RELUCTANCE AMONG THE POPULATION REGARDING ALL VACCINATION. THE INFORMATION COMES FROM SOCIAL MEDIA. IN SOME COMMUNITIES THAT CANNOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN WHAT IS TRUE AND WHAT IS NOT. REPORTER: COVID VACCINE CENTERS LIKE THIS ONE VACCINATED'S ONLY A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE EVERY DAY.

THAT IS A TRICKLE FOR A CITY OF MORE THAN 17 MILLION PEOPLE. A 28-YEAR-OLD WAS ONE OF E FEW IN LINE. HE SAYS HE HAD TO OVERCOME HIS OWN FEARS BEFORE COMING HERE. >> I SAID, WHAT IS A VACCINE FOR IF IT KILLS ME? WHY TAKE IT? IT REALLY DISCOURAGED ME. I TOLD MYSELF NOT TO BE DISCOURAGED. I HAD TO TAKE THE VACCINE. REPORTER: THAT IS WHY EDUCATION IS KEY RESTORING TRUST IN THE COVID-19 VACCINE AND IN ALL ROUTINE VACCINATIONS. IT ALL STARTS HERE APPEARED THIS VACCINE STORAGE FACILITY IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF KINSHASA IS ONE OF THE LARGEST AND IT IS NOT JUST A WAREHOUSE. IT SERVES AS A CENTER FOR EDUCATION. LEADERS ARE BROUGHT HERE. IT IS HOME TO HUGE REVIVALIST CHRISTIAN MINISTRIES IN THOSE CHURCHES ARE SOMETIMES HOTSPOTS OF VACCINE HESITANCY. AS PART OF A U.N. CHILDREN'S

FUND, THE LEADERS FROM MANY OF THESE PARISHES IN KINSHASA GET A VIP BEHIND THE SCENES TOUR TO SEE FOR THEMSELVES THE HIGH-TECH INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRED TO REFRIGERATE AND STORE THE STOCK OF VACCINES. THEY THEN SPREAD THE WORD, VACCINES SAVE LIVES. PASTORS NEED TO CARE NOT JUST FOR THE SPIRITUAL HEALTH OF THEIR COMMUNITY BUT FOR THE GENEL WELL-BEING OF THEIR COMMUNITY. AND FOR KIDS, THEY NEED TO FIND AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS FAVORABLE TO THEIR WL-BEING. REPORTER: BACK AT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER, WORKERS NOTE THAT FOCUSING ON -- WORKERS KNOW THAT FOCUSING ON EDUCATION WORKS. >> AS THERE WERE RUMORS EVERYWHERE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, PEOPLE WERE SCARED. EVEN THE WOMEN WERE NOT COMING HERE. NOW THE COMMUNITY HAS APPROACHED

US AND NOW ACCESS TO VACCINATIONS AND THE CHILDREN TEND TO COME ASKING FOR IT. REPORTER: IT IS A SMALL SUCCESS STORY THAT HEALTH WORKERS HOPE CAN APPLY TO THE REST OF THIS VAST AND SPRAWLING COUNTRY. FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I AM BENEDICT IN KINSHASA. ♪ JUDY: WE WILL BE BACK SHORTLY WITH A LOOK AT HOW A MUSEUM USES TECHNOLOGY TO DEEPEN VISITOR ENGAGEMENT WITH ANCIENT ART BUT FIRST TAKE A MOMENT TO HEAR FROM YOUR LOCAL PBS STATION. IT IS A CHANCE TO OFFER YOUR SUPPORT WHICH HELPS TO KEEP PROGRAMS LIKE OURS ON THE AIR. ♪ ♪ JUDY: FOR THOSE STATIONS STAYING WITH US, A NETFLIX SERIES HAS GAINED A CLAIM FOR ITS PORTRAYAL

OF ARAB AMERICAN LIFE EARLY PRESENTED IN POPULAR CULTURE AND FOR THE COMEDIAN THAT WROTE AND STARS IN THE SHOW. HERE'S ANOTHER LOOK AT JEFFREY BROWN'S CONVERSATION WITH MO. >> I WENT IN THERE SOME LEGAL ADVICE. REPORTER: DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE MUSLIM IMMIGRANT OF PALESTINIAN DISSENT WITH A MEXICAN BORN GIRLFRIEND AND NIGERIAN BEST FRIEND? WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF MO. >> HOW IS THERAPY A SCAM? REPORTER: YOU CAN TALK TO GOD ANYTIME. >> I DON'T WALK AROUND WITH A PRAYER RUG ALL OF THE TIME. MI ALADDIN? -- AM I ALADDIN? REPORTER: IT IS A MASH OF COMEDY AND CRISIS. SOME THINGS ARE SACRED LIKE THE ALL O'BOYLE -- LIKE THE OLIVE OIL HE CARRIES TO REMIND HIM OF HIS HOMELAND AND DON'T THINK

ABOUT TRYING TO SELL HIM CHOCOLATE HUMMUS. >> HUMMUS MEANS CHICKPEAS. THIS IS A BEING MASH. WE MADE IT! REPORTER: TWO NETFLIX COMEDY SPECIALS FIRST RAISED HIS PROFILE NATIONALLY. HERE HE RIFFS OFF THE PANDEMIC AND MORE. >> THAT WAS THE SECOND TIME I THOUGHT MY CAREER MIGHT POTENTIALLY BE OVER. THE FIRST TIME -- [LAUGHTER] WAS RIGHT AFTER 9/11. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE] SOMEONE NAMED MOHAMMED I THOUGHT, IT IS NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR ME OUT HERE. REPORTER: AND NOW HIS SERIES GOES FURTHER PUSHING HIM INTO ACTING IN A OFTEN SENSITIVE AND PAINFUL PORTRAYAL OF A FAMILY MUCH LIKE HIS OWN.

PARENTS THAT LEFT PALESTINE AND MIGRATED TWO WEIGHT AND THEN IN THE GULF WAR FLED AGAIN AND THIS TIME FOR THE HOUSTON -- FOR A HOUSTON SUBURB ENTERING THE U.S. AS REFUGEES. >> I PINCH MYSELF DAILY. REPORTER: ON A VISIT TO NEW YORK RECENTLY HE SPOKE OF SUCCESS. >> MY REALLY GOOD FRIENDS AND STAND UP AND COMEDY ARE LIKE -- DO NOT WORK WITH THEM, THEY COME FROM LOS ANGELES AND DO SHOWS IN HOUSTON. THEY TOLD ME TO CHANGE MY NAME. YOU ARE SO TALENTED, JUST CHANGE YOUR NAME, IT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER. YOU ARE SO GOOD. THEY WOULD TELL ME THIS BUT IT WOULD HURT MY HEART. YOU WANT ME TO BE SOMETHING ELSE? IT IS THE ESSENCE OF ACTING. YOU WANT ME TO ACT IN MY OWN LIFE? HOW LONG DO I HOLD ONTO THAT CHARADE? REPORTER: THE SERIES TAKES IT ON DIRECTLY. THERE IS PLENTY OF HUMOR.

HE AND HIS FAMILY ARE BARELY SCRAPING BY FINANCIALLY. HE FINDS WORK ON AN OLIVE TREE FARM. HIS FATHER DIED YOUNG FROM A HEART ATTACK. 20 YEARS IN THE FAMILY IS STILL WAITING FOR CITIZENSHIP PAPERS. A PAINFUL BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS. IT IS A PORTRAIT OF A FRAGILE AND IN BETWEEN EXISTENCE. >> IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO MY LIFE WHERE IT TOOK ME 20 YEARS TO GET MY CITIZENSHIP. I FELT LIKE I WAS AMERICAN AND SOMEONE WOULD TELL ME YOU WERE NOT BORN HERE? HOW CAN YOU PAY TAXES AND STILL NOT HAVE YOUR PAPERS? IT WAS LIKE -- IT IS COMPLICATED. IT HAS BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE. REPORTER: WHEN YOU THOUGHT ABO AT STORY YOU WANTED TO TELL IN THE SERIES, HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT PALESTINIAN HERITAGE? >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE IT IS WHO I AM. I AM PALESTINIAN. WHERE I COME FROM, THESE PEOPLE

DO EXIST. WAS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BUT IT WAS NOT THE MAIN POINT. IT WAS THE VEHICLE TO DELIVER THESE MESSAGES OF BELONGING. IF YOU HAVE EVER WORKED PAYCHECK-TO-PAYCHECK TAKING CARE OF YOUR FAMILY AND NOT ABLE TO DOT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN IMMIGRANT TO RELATE TO THAT STORY. REPORTER: WAS IT ALWAYS OBVIOUS TO YOU THAT YOU COULD USE COMEDY AS A WAY IN TO LOOK AT. SERIOUS ISSUES THAT THEIES TAKES ON? >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. SO DEEPLY PERSONAL TO ME I WAS SHARE THAT ON CAMERA. IMAGINE DOING THAT AND IT IS ON NETFLIX AND WILL GO OUT TO EVERY COUNTRY ON PLANET EARTH THAT HAS A SUBSCRIPTION. IT IS A HARD THING TO DO AND VERY CHALLENGING EMOTIONALLY. HOWEVER, IT IS IMPORTANT TO SETTLE INTO THAT AND SIT IN IT AND BREATHE IT. REPORTER: A SERIOUS MOMENT WAS HIS MOTHER PUSHING BACK AGAINST HIS DESPAIR.

>> WHY ARE YOU RAISING YOUR VOICE ON US? WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO, SIT AND CRY? DO YOU THINK ME AND YOUR DAD SAD OUT THERE FEELING SORRY FOR OURSELVES? >> ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAD TO HAPPEN FOR ME TO BE HERE AND DO THIS SERIES. FROM PALESTINE 28. KUWAIT WHERE I WAS BORN AND THEN FLEEING WAR. A NINE-YEAR-OLD KID ENDS UP IN HOUSTON, TEX. HE GOES TO THE LIVESTOCK SHOW AND SEES STAND UP FOR THE FIRST TIME. FOUR YEARS LATER MY DAD PASSES AWAY AND I'M DOING STANDUP IN ENGLISH CLASS WHICH IS MY TEACHERS WAY OF HELPING ME NOT TO SKIP ANYMORE. IT FEELS LIKE DESTINY. REPORTER: HOW SURPRISED ARE YOU TO BE ABLE TO HIT IT ON A COMEDY SHOW? >> I'M NOT GOING TO LIE -- I LOOK AROUND SOMETIMES THINKING, IS IT REAL? IT IS GREAT IT IS BEING RECEIVED SO WELL. I THINK IT IS CLEAR THAT THE

APPETITE IS BIG FOR SOME REAL STORIES THAT CONNECT WITH PEOPLE IN A BIG WAY. AND I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL. THE HARD WORK REALLY PAYS OFF. IT REALLY DOES. REPORTER: MO IS NOW WAITING TO SEE IF HIS SERIES WILL BE RENEWED FOR A SECOND SEASON. FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M JEFFREY BROWN IN NEW YORK. ♪ JUDY: ANCIENT SCULPTURES IN BOSTON'S MUSEUM OF FINE ARTS ARE GETTING A NEW LOOK AFTER YEARS OF REIMAGINING HOW TO PRESENT THE GREAT GREEK, ROMAN AND BYZANTINE ART. THE MUSEUM HAS FOUND WAYS TO DRAW THREADS FROM THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO TO TODAY. OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT REPORTS FOR OUR ARTS AND CULTURE SERIES, CANVAS. REPORTER: THIS IS A MOMENT TO EXPERIENCE THE DIVINE. >> IT IS IN THE PHILOSOPHY OF

THE GREEKS TO ASPIRE TO BE LIKE THE GODS. THESE ARE IDEALIZED. APHRODITE, PERFECTLY SENSUAL IN ALL OF THE RIGHT PLACES. REPORTER: THE GODS AND GODDESSES ARE WITHIN REACH AT BOSTON'S MUSEUM OF FINE ARTS WHICH HAS JUST UNVEILED A SERIES OF REIMAGINED GALLERIES FEATURING THE WORK OF ANCIENT GREECE, ROME AND THE BIZ AND PINE EMPIRE. THEY TAKE VISITORS BACK THOUSANDS OF YEARS SCALING THE HEIGHTS OF A VERITABLE AMOUNT OLYMPUS AND DIPPING INTO THE BUSTLE OF DAILY LIFE. >> WE ARE LISTENING IN ON CONVERSATIONS OF FOLKS THAT LIVED 3000 YEARS AGO WHO DRINK GOODINE AND HAD PARTIES IN WHICH THEY SANG ODES TO THEIR HEROES AND TOLD STORIES ABOUT THE GODS AND HAD PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSIONS THAT RESULTED IN DEMOCRACY, MAJOR DRAMA THAT WE STILL PERFORM. REPORTER: CHRISTINE IS THE CHAIR OF THE MUSEUMS GREEK AND ROMAN COLLECTIONS AND SHE SAYS IN THIS

GALLERY OF THE GODS, THE STATUES REPRESENT THEIR STAND INS OFTEN SCULPTED FOR WORSHIP IN TEMPLES. ZEUS MIGHT STILL BE THE FRONT AND CENTER KING BUT IT IS THE FLANKING GODS WHO GOT DOWN TO BUSINESS. >> YOU COULD PRAY TO THEM IF YOU WERE SICK. YOU COULD GO TO A PLACE LIKE EPIDURAS AND SEEK HELP FROM THE GOD OF MEDICINE. THE GODDESS OF HEALTH, WE REALLY NEED HER IN T WORLD TODAY. YOU COULD INVOKE HELP FROM THEM AND HONOR THEM BECAUSE IF YOU DO NOT THEY MIGHT HURT YOU. THIS IS PART OF THE DEAL. REPORTER: A FORTHBLMITOUE I TALL 13,000 POUND JUNO MARRIED TO JUPITER OR ZEUS, THE LARGEST CLASSICAL SCULPTURE IN AMERICA, SHE DISSENTED FROM THE SKY INTO THE MUSEUM 10 YEARS AGO AFTER STANDING ANONYMOUSLY IN A SUBURBAN BOSTON ESTATE FOR A CENTURY. >> MY RESEARCH HAS TRACKED HER BACK TO THE LATE FIRST CENTURY BC STANDING IN THE FIRST MARBLE

THEATER OF ROME. REPORTER: THE GALLERY'S MEANDER FROM THE MONUMENTAL TO MATTERS OFHE DAY INCLUDING FASHIONABLE HAIR, TOOLS AND DRINKING CUPS. >> WHAT REALLY TOUCHES ME IS THE HUMAN CONNECTION. IT IS THE THREAT THAT TIES YOU TO THIS PERSON 2000 YEARS AGO THAT TOUCHED THE OBJECTS. REPORTER: SHE IS ONE OF THE GALLERIES CURATORS AND SHE SAYS SOME OF WHAT WE FIND HERE CARRIES THIS EMERGENCY IT DID YEARS AGO LIKE A SEEMINGLY SIMPLISTIC TRIANGLE THAT CARRIES A MUCH DEEPER MEANING. >> IT IS SHAPED LIKE FEMALE GENITALIA AND ON THE TOP THERE IS AN INSCRIPTION THAT SAYS IT IS A GIFT GIVEN BY A WOMAN AS A THANK YOU FOR BEING HEALED. THOSE ARE THINGS WE STILL EXPERIENCE AND WHEN YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THE MODERN MEDICINE WE HAVE TODAY, YOU HAVE TO TURN TO SOMETHING, SOMEONE, MAY BE A

GREATER SOMEONE TO TRY TO HELP. ♪ >> MEET THE HIGHLY REGARDED MASTER POTTER. REPORTER: SHE WAS ALSO INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING TECHNOLOGY INTO THE GALLERIES. >> ATHENIAN VASES WERE PRIZED FAR AND WIDE. REPORTER: THIS FILM DESCRIBES A FICTIONAL STORY ABOUT THE REAL AND REVOLUTIONARY PRACTICES IN CLAY INCLUDING CREATING THIS ATHENIAN BASE WHEN ARTISANS DISCOVERED A WAY TO DEPICT FIGURES IN RED AND NOT THE USUAL BLACK. >> IT IS NOT ONLY THE HISTORY OF AESTHETICS BUT IT IS ALSO A HISTORY OF TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE THIS REQUIRES HUGE EXPERIMENTS AND FIRING, AND BASIC CHEMISTRY THAT PROBABLY TOLD THOUSANDS OF EXPERIMENTS. REPORTER: BACK IN THE GODS AND GODDESSES GALLERY, THIS IS A DIGITAL REVELATION ALL ITS OWN. >> FOR A LONG TIME WE HAVE

LOOKED AT ANCIENT STATUES AND THOUGHT, THIS IS HOW THEY WERE CREATED. IS IT? >> ORIGINALLY IT WAS BRIGHTLY PAINTED, ALMOST GARISH. WE DECIDED THAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR MANDATE HERE, TOONVEY THIS. WE NEEDED TO SHOW HOW WE ENCOUNTERED THE WORKS. REPORTER: TO DETERMINE HOW THE STATUE ORIGINALLY WORKED THE MUSEUM USED A HOST OF METHODOLOGY INCLUDING SCRUTINY >> YOU CAN SEE THE REDDISH HUES. ATHENA HAD RED HAIR. REPORTER: TO SPECIAL LIGHTING, AND CHEMICAL ANALYSIS. >> IT IS A BLUE PIGMENT CALLED EGYPTIAN BLUE THAT REACTS UNDER A SPECIFIC LIGHT CONDITIONS AND WE DID FIND A LOT OF IT ON HER HELMET. REPORTER: IT ALL MEANS WE MAY NEED TO CREDIT THE GREEKS AND ROMANS FOR TECHNICOLOR ALSO.

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